Sad pathetic men. They are an insult to their religion and perpetuate more evil in the world 😔

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I'd be scared, too. That cop was more outnumbered than the Capitol Police on January 6, 2021!

Even in this case, there was a protest/violence against Jewish people, and they then turn around and commit violence against an unrelated party because mobs aren't great at being rational. We've known for a long time an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, but we still do it.

Not talking about their ugly rhetoric, it looks like she was being hit or kicked. Maybe they would do this to a male as well. But the misogyny is dripping.

So tell me who are the REAL terrorists around the world. According to MAGAs, Nazis and Zionist Jews,
only the oppressed, occupied, and disenfranchised are terrorists, especially if they fight back to regain their stolen lands and wealth.

Sad and unjust world we live in. Sustained by propaganda and lies. Just gotta keep fighting it!

that abducts and sends people out of the country with no due process just because they have tattoos or sports attire.

There is no limitation to the depths of stupidity and when those in power set the standard, the walking dead are sure to follow.

Thanks for the thread valleyrogue

compliments of Been A Dick Donald and his criminal org.

I'm sure centuries of conflict can be solved here.

But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, or that it was posted here.

No one was arrested because cop was outnumbered and crowd was amped up for violence. This is a mob mentality and you can not reason with the mob. I don’t think posting this video is antisemitism.

I'm referring to the X thread. Sorry I wasn't clear.

The OP posted this without context for SOME REASON.

Harassing a woman and the officer trying to protect her

It's in the NYT and the Guardian. Here's links to both:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/28/mob-orthodox-jewish-men-chases-woman

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/28/nyregion/protests-israel-woman-attacked-brooklyn.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DE8.BuzZ.8Y--5rjZWIUe&smid=em-share

on edit - removed my question as you've been asked it before in this thread and not answered, so I can't see the point of repeating it. I will say that (and this is a general observation) that there are people who will focus on only one form of bigotry, which is fine with me. It's not fine if they take it one step further and defend other forms of bigotry or claim or strongly imply that the bigotry doesn't exist, and that anyone who claims it's bigotry is overly sensitive. I pity those sort of people.

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Sometimes, the Jews deserve the blame! Look at this behavior. They are no better than the Arab terrorists they decry.

Any religion that terrorizes innocent people is religious extremism and it is wrong!

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How hard is it to admit that Islamopobes exist, as antisemites do? Both should be condemned, yet you make excuses.

We don't know why this happened - as she wasn't even wearing a keffyieh - just a "cowboy" scarf around her face - reason?

There is no excuse for this behavior - but please don't put the blame on all Jewish people. This is an ultra Orthodox community ............ And I must say "They are a shanda to the Jewish people."

I apologize for the mix-up.
I should have made a separate reply instead of replying to your post.

You do know that there are those who will blame the entire community though.

The thing that is so disheartening is that women no matter their politics are easy scapegoats.
I have no idea what would have happened to her if the police officer wasn’t present.

I still wonder about the entire story.
I may (or may not) agree with this woman's politics, but what she endured is horrific.
She will be affected for the rest of her life, and I would advise that she see a trauma therapist immediately.

But I do blame those who make excuses for this particular incident, regardless of their religion.

Although goodness knows between measles and tuberculosis clusters spiking, surveillance police cameras, surveillance phone-cameras....there are plenty of reasons for anyone.

I was wondering the reason they were harassing her so badly, not for the face covering.

The law needs to be enforced equally

People have the right to protest wether republicans believe it or not

These “men “ surrounding this woman and officer should be charged with mob action and the ones that actually hit her, kicked her charged with battery, actually their is probably some law against doing all that to a cop that carries a stiffer penalty

But at least she isn’t being bombed and starved in an open air prison like the people of Gaza

They were looking to fight Jews, thats not a "protest", thats terrorism.

Do you have more information?

Until the large group of “men “ surround the single woman and the brave cop

IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS

Protesting the presence nearby of Israeli Cabinet Minister Ben-Gvir, the far-right hateful extremist and violent settler responsible for so much Palestinian suffering and suffering of Israeli hostages and their families. Without him and Smotrich, the war would have been over and hostages home a long time ago and we may not now all be suffering underTrump.

For doing that, they were beaten up and assaulted by these thugs while the police watched and did nothing. They never do, just like at UCLA.

Only one side in this conflict is ever protected, and that side fortunately never suffers even a fraction of the extreme violence the pro-Palestinians do.

Oh, dont provoke the violent people and you wont get messed with. I for one am happy to see people do such, especially the Palestinians in gaza protesting hamas and the Isralies in Israel protesting bibi.

IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS

What did this guy do to deserve being murdered?

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Neither side has clean hands in this.

it goes on and on and on

Sorry 🤷‍♀️

And a woman covering her face had mean things screamed at her.

You're absolutely right they are not equivalent.

She was assaulted! The 'mean things' were threats of rape, death to Arabs, and other such sickening and bigoted things. I think you need to go back and watch that original clip of the attack and stop trying to divert attention with all the 'whataboutism'. You've posted repetitively in this thread, but it's mostly about anything else than the sickening attack on the woman in New York. As a woman, that attack sickens and scares me. I hope you have the empathy and understanding to be able to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see it through their eyes.

Any idea?

I watched the video. I don't condone violence.

She wanted to retain her privacy. Even now, she's scared of reprisals and is withholding her name.

In that video there is only one side with hate and violence, in another the other side. Of course I was talking about the wider confluence. Both sides have committed atrocities. What Hamas did was wrong. What Israel is doing is wrong. What is going on there has been wrong since the beginning. Both sides got a shit sandwich deal from the UN and most of the world. What do you expect when you take two different religions and make them live in the same place? The sad part is both sides decided that shit sandwich was the status quo and keep going back for seconds. On one side you have an autocratic fool eager to continue the destruction but even beyond that you have a country built on taking from the Arabs and continuing to do so. On the other you have a resistance movement full of people who have no problem with murdering everyone and anyone and a people who have been subjected to poverty and no country, barricaded in and controlled. That's bad enough but that radical movement also has no problem with murdering everyone and anyone just because, not that it in any way improves the peoples lives, no, it actually made it worse. Way worse. Neither of them have a real end game plan, its just to cause more death and destruction. Neither of them can win this fight.

so sick of it

Can someone explain that to me?

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Neither side has clean hands in this and until both sides stop blaming the other to justify their actions, it's unlikely to end.

It's a different synagogue.

People are protesting in front of Jewish community centers and synagogues, at times harassing worshippers about what's going on in the Middle East. It's been going on since Oct 7th.

That's why the protest.

Ben Gvir is a far-right Jewish supremacist who, among other things, has called for the shooting of Palestinian women and children and for Palestinians to be expelled and replaced by Israeli settlers as the"only solution".

What's the excuse now?

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Likewise nobody should be chasing a woman down to attack her because they thought she was Arab. Not that hard to condemn both sides for antagonistic behavior.

Dressed in ugly Hamas masks no less...

The man arrested at the end appears to have an Israeli accent. I could be wrong. But he also yells to someone "take off your mask". He says he didn't spit at anybody.

This is how it goes. Provocateurs infiltrate the protest, spit or goad, harass etc and usually are unsuccesful. But sometimes they get a response, as seems the case here. But the cops held the protesters back.

Of course what you never see in these videos posted by pro-Israel sites - due to clever editing - is the provocation that preceded the response. As seems the case here.

The man has a Syrian accent. This is a neighborhood where many Syrian Jews live. He is the local resident, not the Keffiyeh wearing outsider. He was not a provocateur, he was provoked. It was probably his synagogue that was targeted by the small group of disruptors, whose presence was obviously not welcome near the neighborhood synagogue.

The provocation that preceded the response was the loud disruptive presence of the keffiyeh-wearing, supposedly anti-Israel protesters next to a Jewish, not Israeli, house of worship. Their antisemitic intentions were clearly demonstrated by the choice of their target.

Interesting how quickly "I could be wrong" turns into a rather elaborate fairy tale of "how this goes".

My point was that the arrest was not of a protester, but of a "counter-protester" - whether the man is a local American Jew - of any descent, whether Syrian or Ashkenazi - an Israeli Jew, a non-Jew or whatever ....totally besides the point. Unless the point is to obfuscate and deflect of course!


Further...

The target of the protest was Ben-Gvir, not the synagogue. He was scheduled to speak at that synagogue later that day. The fact that it is a Syrian Jewish synagogue is besides the point. It made a choice to invite the reviled POS settler-terrorist and genocide mastermind Ben-Gvir as an honoured guest. Presumably because the synagogue sees nothing repulsive about him, his actions and ultra-Zionist ideology. Unlike many other synagogues and communities that rejected an appearance by Ben-Gvir. Good on them.

It is your grossly uninformed description of the origins and the accent of the man you commented on that was your point. You made it pretty clear, and, in the face of what you already committed to print, attempting to disavow it now is transparently disingenuous, awkward and ridiculous. Naturally, it didn't stop you from accusing me. Figures.

And now, the real point, which you are trying to avoid like fire: the man who was arrested is not the one who provoked the confrontation. The likelihood of him not being a protester is yet another deflection: he was not the cause of the confrontation. The confrontation was a response to the blatantly antisemitic targeting of (likely his) place of worship by the provocative action of a combative group of outsiders. Are you not clear on that yet? It will be up to NYPD and due process of law, not your conjectures, that will determine the nature of the man's actions. The combative displays of antisemitic attitudes by a loud and disruptive outside group targeting the local place of worship, on the other hand, is self-evident.

Of course, it was already brought to your attention that the arrest you have described has nothing to do wit Ben Gvir, and it occurred in an area of Brooklyn some ten miles away, and at a different time of day than the the Ben Gvir visit. But referencing a wrong event on a wrong day at a wrong place for the wrong reason is not a deflection, right?

For my part, I can't think of why decent people would NOT be outraged and offended by the aforementioned antisemitic protesters.

Before I dismiss the rest of your post as yet another failed attempt at deflection, a few further matters of fact: Ben Gvir's visit of a Syrian Jewish synagogue, whether or not it is besides the point, is not a fact: it is at best a misunderstanding of a fact. Ben Gvir never set foot anywhere near the Syrian synangogue targeted by the Jew-hating group of protesters in question. And check out your excerpt tags. Probably an honest error, but they appear to be in the wrong place. Makes things unnecessarily confusing, as if the rest of your post already isn't.

Of course he didn't "set foot" in the place. The scheduled event was cancelled after the protest. Of course you "overlooked" this small detail in order to imply something misleading.

Btw I corrected that formatting error in the excerpt a mere minutes after posting. But thanks for your concern and vigilance!

One is the synagogue in Crown Heights, where Ben Gvir did set foot (https://forward.com/fast-forward/715531/chabad-ben-gvir-crown-heights-protests/), and one near which the man withe Syrian accent was apprehended by the poice.

Ben Gvir did set foot in the Crown Heights synagogue, and he didn't set foot in the Gravesend synagogue.

Why do you keep conflating two entirely separate events? What is it that I am "overlooking", in quotation marks?

Remember, I am not the one who made the reference to your poor brain.

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Accuse me of something I didn't do or didn't say.

I know the difference between the two very separate events and locations. Both had Ben-Gvir genocidal monster scheduled to speak. The second one cancelled the event the same day it was scheduled, following the protest. You are now using the cancellation to assert he never set foot at the event. Which, while technically true of course, is a dishonest way of trying to assert I was wrong in stating that genocidal monster was sceduled to speak there. And that I was conflating and the other bullshit.

Dishonest debate hurts my brain. Yes, my brain is much poorer for being on the receiving end of dishonest nonsense.

And it may have. Speaking of tools, the clueless keffiyeh-clad bigots likely picked the wrong synagogue for their antisemitic gathering. The one you keep referring to. The one in the video you keep bringing up. The one with the man who has a not Israeli accent.

Or else they didn't give a crap and picked a random one. A synagogue with Jews in it.

The only mention of a cancelled Ben Gvir event in Brooklyn I could find a reference to was to take place in Boro Park, some five miles away from Gravesend, (the location of the aforementioned Gravesend synagogue).(https://collive.com/israeli-minister-ben-gvir-to-visit-crown-heights-boro-park#:~:text=Israel%E2%80%99s%20National%20Security%20Minister%20Itamar%20Ben%20Gvir%20is,Crown%20Heights%20and%20Boro%20Park%20neighborhoods%20on%20Thursday.)

You see, I know what I am talking about, and you don't. Which puts your brain squarely on the giving end of a dishonest debate. A presumably comfortable position to function adequately, if one were to take your word for it.

Wrong synagogue, no Ben Gvir, and they still went on with their vitriol and didn't disperse until way after the police arrived.

Can you tell me who they were targeting and who they were insulting?

Let me guess: random Zionist oppressors from nearby homes objecting to all the freedom fighting being hurled at them by keffiyeh-wearing strangers with covered faces who came to charge them with genocide.

Ben Gvir, Syrian Jews, what's the fucking difference?

A video that purports to show:

"Hamas supporters attacking Jews outside the Shaarie Zion Synagogue in Flatbush New York"

Does not actually depict any assault of Jews and ends with the arrest of a man who, by your own admission, is likely a local Jew of Syrian descent. In any case I'd wager he is not a "Hamas supporter".

I guess you missed both my point and the rather sad but almost funny irony of the misleading video description.

Have a nice day.

I am missing the purpose for deflecting from one event to a completely different event, in a different place, in a different time. There is nothing remotely resembling irony in this sleight of hand.

And I assure you, the man with the Syrian accent referred to in the post you are replying to is not a Hamas supporter, and was never referred to as one. So spare the quotation marks, you are about to run out of them soon.

Have a lovely, blessed evening.

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And when excuses don't work, try diverting attention away from the attack. From what I can see (Twitter links aren't embedded for me and I'm not going to that cesspit to look), apparently speaking out against this enables hatred of Jews. That sort of 'logic' is the same as saying that speaking out against Hamas enables hatred of Arab and Muslims. Of course there's extremists who'll feel enabled, but in no way does that mean that we shouldn't speak out against hatred and injustice when we see it.

…..for clearly summarizing 😊

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The Pro-Palestinian protestors have a right to protect outside the synagogue where Gvir was speaking.

IF, however, some tried to, or got inside the synagogue to ?"fight Jews" that sure seems like criminal behavior, too!

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