Stop the childlike silliness and work on electing Democrats instead of feathering your own nest.

rather than youthful exuberance. Purging the older and safe will excise stability in favor of younger replacements who are more volatile.

Would the party be stronger for such a move? Louder and more rash maybe. But not wiser.

have a voice?

Is 50 old enough? 60? Maybe 70 or 80 before voters start to matter?

And yet, I hear people saying "young people won't vote for us....WHY?"

Well, they are sure aware that they aren't wanted...well, their votes are, but their voices sure aren't.

My sons, who vote for Democrats, do tell me that they vote for them because they are the only real choice, not because they believe that they will do anything for young people or people who aren't wealthy.

So, I ask again...when do people start to matter? What age is it that makes it worthwhile to listen to them?

Why should a person in their 20's, just starting out, believe that a wealthy person in their 70s or 80s cares about their life more than their own personal stock portfolio?

You may not choose to vote for a person under a certain age, but what we've been doing isn't working. Maybe being loud and disruptive IS where our party needs to go. Maybe we need to say NO, loudly, instead of smiling and nodding while maintaining a pretense of "friends on the other side of the aisle".

Because those "friends on the other side" are NOT friends to anyone who makes under a couple million a year.

Are the same ones who who were hollering "foul play" in last year's NJ Senate election.

At best it is disingenuous if they support Hogg now.

Where they see a freedom fighter - I see a "Party Boss". Not much difference between him and Steve Sweeney of NJ. New Boss - meet the old Boss. If he doesn't want folks to side eye his behavior then he needs to step down from the DNC.

If I can't have preference or push for a choice in the Senate Campaign in NJ as a Democratic Committee Member - he shouldn't have one in multiple House Races.

Also - I'm old enough to remember progressives pulling their hair out over moving SC up in the primaries.And being pissed Clyburn endorsed Biden.

Gen Xer here! Flashback to my childhood.

Even when the status quo isn’t working to achieve stated goals and support long held principles.

Change is scary, often risky, but right now under Trump, not changing is far scarier and riskier.

I wish Hogg all the success he seeks in electing better Democrats who will fight to achieve the stated goals and support the long held principles of the Democratic Party.

Not sure why Hogg doesn’t grasp this.

I’m all for organic primary challenges that come from within a district, not convinced Hogg knows what he’s doing.

the status quo isn’t looking too good.

David vs ( the ones who sleep in )

“Out-of-touch, ineffective House Democrats,”?

Kind of tough to be effective when you don't have a majority.

He's always been effective and supported the party even when the party did him wrong (and there's no denying they did).

I still just facepalm every time I see what Hogg is doing right now. Why? Just, fucking, why David?

ugh

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a lifetime experience. I had worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to be in the position to run for and be elected as delegate. Too bad that Sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help TFG. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, Sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the Sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis., Elijah Cummings and Stacy Abrams. I was warned about each of these stunts 30 minutes before it happened by my Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, Sanders was asked to stop this event and declined.

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of Sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to Sanders.

Sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that Sanders talked about was himself. Sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally, a group of Sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. My daughter was my guest and she got to attend the first night and see Michelle Obama. Again, Sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and Sanders refused.

Texas may change the way it selects delegates next cycle, and I will see if I want to run. I was a day one contributor to Joe Biden and got to meet Joe Biden at two different private fundraisers. I was amused when Joe signed some floor speech signs from his speech at the 2016 convention while not missing a beat talking to another guest. Joe then took my iPhone took three selfies with me better than I could do. One of the floor speech signs were inscribed with "Keep the Faith." At the next fundraiser, I had maxxed out for the primary and so got to talk to Joe about stuttering.

The process of running for and getting elected to be a delegate to a national convention takes a great deal effort and you still have to be vetted before you are an official delegate. I have friends who were at the 2008 and 2012 conventions, and they had a good time. Time will tell if I try again.

disgusting

"age and experience" and plain inertia.

GOOD

ANYTHING to wake them the fuck UP already

There is just no other way to put it. It really undermines my respect for the guy.

I get that we have to follow our passions and dreams, etc. but this guy was gunning for vice chair less than half a year ago and he's already bored of it?

"I want to show young people that the party does care about them, that we are fighting for them."

Ok that's great, did you show that as vice chair though? You didn't even stay in long enough to warm the seat. How could you fight or do anything in that time? You're already bored of it and want a Congressional seat?

There are few better ways of having national impact than from a role like vice chair, and he's particularly well-suited to it because he has a national profile. Is he going to just throw that all away? How can we trust what he said in this campaign when he abandoned the position he last campaigned for?

Someone fucking make it fucking make sense.

I got an email from the Justice Democrats announcing that they are primarying a regular democrat. This is from the email:

I have been following the Justice Democrats and its predecessor for a while including the "brand new congress group" and other groups created by Cenk, Kyle Kulinksi, Zack Exley, Saikat Chakrabarti, and their ilk. I am on the Justice Democrat email list and I have even listened once or twice to the Justice Democrat podcast which is amusingly called "Just Us" democrats. The Justice Democrats emails are fun to laugh at and I love the hatred this group shows to the Democratic Party, establishment Democrats and best of all corporate democrats (I am a corporate lawyer).

The Justice Democrat group want to take over the Democratic party and remake into their image. I also do not want the Democratic Party to be taken over by the Justice Democrat group.


I am not the only person who has issues with the concept that the Justice Democrats want to take over the Democratic Party

Link to tweet

Again, the above posts are consistent with the hatred of the Democratic Party that I see on the almost daily emails that I get from the Justice Democrats. I admit that I enjoy the Just Us Democrat whines about AIPAC and Jews being mean.

The Just Us Democrats seem to be drawing a distinction between their group and David Hogg's pac with respect to how much money will go to the candidate. Hogg's pac gave only 2.3% of the amount raised last cycle to candidates.

A fight between the Justice Democrat group and Hogg's pac will be fun to watch