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orangecrush

(24,406 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:17 PM Apr 25

Congress erupts over FBI arrest of Wisconsin judge

Democratic lawmakers reacted with ferocity — and some Republicans with cheers — to the Friday arrest of Wisconsin judge Hannah Dugan for allegedly helping an undocumented defendant avoid arrest by ICE agents.

Why it matters: To Democrats, the arrest marks a significant escalation in President Trump's efforts to consolidate power and use federal law enforcement to crush legal obstacles to his agenda.

"It is remarkable that the Administration would dare to start arresting state court judges," said House Judiciary Committee ranking member Jamie Raskin (D-Md.). "It's a whole new descent into government chaos."
"The Trump administration again is breaking norms in how it's dealing with immigration, the legal system, and normalcy. ... This is stuff I expect from Third World countries," Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wisc.) told Axios.
Said Rep. Greg Landsman (D-Ohio): "They arrested a judge?! They can no longer claim to be a party of law and order. This will have to be a red line for congressional Republicans. Unbelievable."
What happened: Dugan was arrested Friday morning at the Milwaukee County Courthouse on charges of obstruction and concealing an individual, a spokesperson for the U.S. Marshals Service told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The Milwaukee County Circuit judge is in federal custody and was scheduled to appear before a U.S. magistrate later Friday.
A source familiar with the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed the arrest to Axios.
FBI Director Kash Patel, in a now-deleted post on X, accused Dugan of "intentionally misdirect[ing]" ICE agents who were attempting to arrest Eduardo Flores Ruiz, an undocumented defendant in her courtroom.
The other side: Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wisc.) told Axios, "It is abundantly clear that many activist judges around the country have been acting politically in order to sabotage President Trump's agenda, and disenfranchise the 77 million Americans that voted for him."

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/25/fbi-arrest-judge-hannah-dugan-wisconsin-congress

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Congress erupts over FBI arrest of Wisconsin judge (Original Post) orangecrush Apr 25 OP
Statement of Senator Tammy Baldwin LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #1
The judge should be praised for helping the person avoidTrump's outsourced concentration camps in foreign prisons. wnylib Apr 25 #28
If D_Master81 Apr 25 #36
While I ForgedCrank Apr 25 #41
She ABSOLUTELY DiverDave Apr 25 #46
Judges are ForgedCrank Apr 25 #49
I think that you might be misunderstanding the legal situation of this case. wnylib Monday #55
Unfortunately, I am ForgedCrank Monday #56
Judge Dugan should have been a Supreme Court Justice bronxiteforever Apr 25 #2
" .. some Republicans with cheers .." Stupid, stupid people. Bo Zarts Apr 25 #3
they will pay in the long run rurallib Apr 25 #13
'"and some Republicans with cheers" GusBob Apr 25 #4
Is this the same administration whose leader pardoned and freed all of the convicted January 6 criminals? Mister Ed Apr 25 #5
What are the Democrats going to do about it? I'm sort of tired of all the talk. Raven Apr 25 #6
What have they got besides talk? We haven't got the numbers to do anything. Vinca Apr 25 #7
Well, I guess they'll have to think outside the box for a change. Raven Apr 25 #9
when repukes are out of power they cause all kinds of hell for Dems Skittles Apr 25 #47
Somehow the Turtle was able to gum up the works pretty well Doremus Apr 25 #19
How did the Republicans gain so much ground with their bald-faced lies? hadEnuf Apr 25 #23
It's called Focksnooze (Fox News). Mr. Evil Apr 25 #38
GET ARRESTED NOW !! Stop some congress from doing some shit, stand in the way and make more noise. If that's all we uponit7771 Apr 25 #30
Don't worry. Schumer will probably draft a sternly worded letter... Sky Jewels Apr 25 #21
IDK, maybe we should ask Garland, he can be found eating milk and cookies while watching reruns of Mr Rogers ImNotGod Apr 25 #35
Republicans hate democracy. Passages Apr 25 #8
Really? JBTaurus83 Apr 25 #10
If he can arrest state judges, he can arrest Congress members, too. lindysalsagal Apr 25 #11
Which is why they are all toeing the line. progressoid Apr 25 #12
Bob Menendez was arrested and convicted while in the Senate MichMan Apr 25 #52
Rebel Iamscrewed Apr 25 #14
Was he in her court. Then he was under the control of the Judges court & jurisdiction. Historic NY Apr 25 #15
THIS is the issue Mossfern Apr 25 #17
Activist Judges sabotaging Trump's agenda? patphil Apr 25 #16
We had a coup attempt in January 2021. The coup folks are now in power and they are doing what they want. jalan48 Apr 25 #18
If Biden hadn't appointed Merrick fucking Garland, Sky Jewels Apr 25 #22
Exactly. The fact that Garland never called it a coup attempt was telling. jalan48 Apr 25 #25
We should remember JustAnotherGen Apr 25 #33
And to think, Hornedfrog2000 Apr 25 #20
"Cheers" and "Ferocity." Yep. Civil War Evolve Dammit Apr 25 #24
Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Blue Owl Apr 25 #26
I am beginning to think he is a wind up doll. leftyladyfrommo Apr 26 #54
The end of three equal branches of government. Emile Apr 25 #27
If the criminal arrest of a judge stands, we all better leave the country. Before we are forced to stay. rich7862 Apr 25 #29
arrest patel moonshinegnomie Apr 25 #31
WI law enforcement has no jurisdiction outside of WI. nt kelly1mm Apr 25 #34
as i said,laws dont matter anymore under herr shitgibbon moonshinegnomie Apr 25 #37
"Kash Patel, in a now-deleted post..." Grins Apr 25 #32
Ann Jacobs - illustratiing that this is BS! Lokee11 Apr 25 #39
Thanks orangecrush Apr 25 #40
Try to keep this in mind, Derrick... dchill Apr 25 #42
Maddow Blog-As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #43
Here's hoping Bondi and Kash end up in jail for long, long stints for sedition. travelingthrulife Apr 25 #45
Republicans are cheering it. travelingthrulife Apr 25 #44
Every senator that voted and confirmed these two and others in his cabinet should look in the mirror........... turbinetree Apr 25 #48
K&R UTUSN Apr 25 #50
Activist judges acting to sabotage 47's agenda vapor2 Apr 25 #51
Sure 77 million people voted for Krasnov kkmarie Apr 26 #53
Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy LetMyPeopleVote Monday #57
Reality TV "justice" orangecrush Monday #58

wnylib

(25,250 posts)
28. The judge should be praised for helping the person avoidTrump's outsourced concentration camps in foreign prisons.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:04 PM
Apr 25

If the US ever returns to sanity, she will be praised and honored for her action.

ForgedCrank

(2,616 posts)
41. While I
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:47 PM
Apr 25

may agree with her on the subject matter, I can't get behind this sort of thing. We can't have judges deciding which laws to uphold, that is the very thing that causes a breakdown of a working system, and it nullifies the power of the people we elect to write laws on our behalf. It is also a blatant violation of the oath that they take. This is a steep slope that we shouldn't be encouraging. The cure is in our elected representatives.

DiverDave

(5,085 posts)
46. She ABSOLUTELY
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:47 PM
Apr 25

did the right thing. Rules, pesky things.
They had no arrest warrant.
You got it wrong.
She did the right thing.

ForgedCrank

(2,616 posts)
49. Judges are
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:18 PM
Apr 25

not Harriet Tubman, they are bound to follow the laws as written. Firstly, a warrant is not required in order to arrest someone. Regardless there was a valid and active immigration warrant issued for this guy. Also, rules may be pesky at times, but they have to be there for good reason. No one is above the law.
In addition, this guy was deported once already and snuck back in a second time. This is illegal.
At the time, this guy was in court for beating someone to a pulp over loud music, and the judge, knowing federal agents were in the building to collect him (on an active warrant), adjourned his court hearing without even telling the prosecutors so she could sneak him out of a side door and evade the federal agents.
This judge broke the law, and we simply can't promote that. That is, unless you think we will regain control of the country and keep it that way forever. We have laws for a reason, and we elect people to do that on our behalf. Judges don't get to decide that. Just because we may like the outcome, it's reckless and destructive to support and promote such actions.
Facts matter.
You got it wrong.
She did the wrong thing(s)

wnylib

(25,250 posts)
55. I think that you might be misunderstanding the legal situation of this case.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 04:41 PM
Monday

First, state and municipal courts are not obligated to assist ICE. They are not part of the federal system.

Second, each jurisdiction in the country has its own laws regarding where ICE is permitted to pick up people for any immigration violations. Most of them forbid ICE from picking up immigrants inside a courtroom. The reason for that is that it can interfere with court actions in process, e.g. when the immigrant is testifying as a witness to a crime. Judges must be permitted to carry out their duties and the legal processes within their courts, without outside disruption and obstruction during a hearing or trial. So, it was ICE that was breaking the law, not the court justice.

Third, there are places within a courthouse building where ICE can pick up immigrants for detention -- OUTSIDE of the courtroom, e.g. in the hall, in another room of the courthouse, so long as they are not disrupting or obstructing the court's ability to carry out justice. So, for example, if an immigrant is waiting outside the courtroom to be called as the state's witness to a crime and ICE picks up him/her and removes them, the trial is jeopardized without the ability to get the witness' testimony. That puts the community at risk if it results in a criminal not being convicted.

Fourth, the justice in this case did NOT hide the immigrant from ICE. She showed him another door to exit from the courtroom into another room within the courthouse. The immigrant was picked up by ICE outside of the courtroom instead of inside of it, so there was no justification for arresting the justice.

The federal government is overriding the state and local court systems, thereby obstructing state and local laws. This is just practice to get Americans accustomed to people being picked up anywhere at any time for any reason -- without a hearing, representation, or notification of friends or relatives. The general public is being conditioned to think, "Oh, it's an illegal immigrant, so they don't have rights." But, in fact, according to the Constitution, they do have rights. They have the right to a hearing to have their case heard and the right to contact an attorney to represent them. There are groups of immigration attorneys, usually associate with churches, who will take pro bono cases to help immigrants navigate the legal system.

Once Americans get accustomed to the idea of "the other" being disappeared without notice or rights, the next move on this slippery slope is to target American citizens in the same way -- for political reasons, racial or ethnic reasons, or to silence members of the press.

""First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I did nothing.
Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did nothing...
...then they came for me, but there was no one left to help me."

Push back and keep on pushing. Don't let us slide down this slippery slope.



ForgedCrank

(2,616 posts)
56. Unfortunately, I am
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:19 PM
Monday

not allowed to engage with facts on these matters, let alone opinions. Dissenting information is removed via alerts and there is no recourse. All that is allowed here is to silently roll my eyes when I read these things and then move on.

bronxiteforever

(10,395 posts)
2. Judge Dugan should have been a Supreme Court Justice
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:30 PM
Apr 25

The GOP lets them do everything and GOP donors pay your family’s tuition, mortgages and even buy you an RV!

Bo Zarts

(25,984 posts)
3. " .. some Republicans with cheers .." Stupid, stupid people.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:34 PM
Apr 25

Reminds me of one of my favorite lines in Erich Maria Remarque's great anti-war (WW-1) novel All Quiet on the Western Front:

"The wisest were just poor and simple people. They knew the war to be a misfortune, whereas those who were better off, and should have been able to see more clearly what the consequences would be, were beside themselves with joy.

Katczinsky said that was a result of their upbringing. It made them stupid. And what Kat said, he had thought about."

All Quiet on the Western Front, Erich Maria Remarque

Stupid, stupid Repubs. Besides themselves with joy .. cheering for the desolution of our democracy. But what the hell .. their cult leader thinks that Purple Hearts are cool.

Folks, we are totally fucked.

GusBob

(7,899 posts)
4. '"and some Republicans with cheers"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:35 PM
Apr 25

As I indicated earlier, Trump will be crowing and posting about this by noon tomorrow, calling her all sorts of names and the usual lies, etc
He will also brag up that jackwagon Patel, and blast the FBI under Biden

Thats his MO

Mister Ed

(6,586 posts)
5. Is this the same administration whose leader pardoned and freed all of the convicted January 6 criminals?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:35 PM
Apr 25

Even those who had done violence to police officers?

Skittles

(163,850 posts)
47. when repukes are out of power they cause all kinds of hell for Dems
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:07 PM
Apr 25

now we are fighting FASCISM - yes, Dems need to stop doing business as usual start acting like real FOES

Doremus

(7,266 posts)
19. Somehow the Turtle was able to gum up the works pretty well
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:36 PM
Apr 25

Despite his minority status he was able to bring the senate to a halt and pulled maneuver after maneuver out of his magic hat. WTF can't the Dems? Is it defeatism, apathy, laziness, what? Yes, we know arresting a judge is beyond the line --- what are we going to do about it for heaven's sakes???

hadEnuf

(3,160 posts)
23. How did the Republicans gain so much ground with their bald-faced lies?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:53 PM
Apr 25

We actually have facts and truth on our side, yet we go nowhere.

We all need to really think about what we are not doing or what we are doing wrong.

We need to use their own right-wing Republican tactics against them for a start. Forget this "high road" and "we don't want to be like them" nonsense. This is war.

Mr. Evil

(3,270 posts)
38. It's called Focksnooze (Fox News).
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:41 PM
Apr 25

Their whole business model is telling a certain percentage of our society (the gullible rubes, racists, bigots, etc.) what they want to hear (positive reinforcement from a blonde on the TV). Therefore they watch again and again. And again. Eventually they begin to see (gleefully) and accept this behavior as normal and anyone that questions it as abnormal.

Krasnov, TSF, could care less. He's participating in the ultimate reality TV show. Ratings, ratings, ratings are all that matter. Even on this website most threads are about him. He could care less. He's special. He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue blah blah blah. The CIA and the NSA most likely have so much traitorous and treasonous info on this consummate asshole it would sink a fucking ship. What do we hear from them... huh? Anything? So, all the untold billions of dollars spent funding them amounts to absolutely nothing. You want waste, fraud and abuse? Start with them. They get to have fun playing their 'cat and mouse' games.

None of this shit is about making America great again. When were we great? When were we not great? We actually have a quite sordid past if you take 5 fucking minutes to read anything about it. So what. We're always a work in progress (you know, 'in order to form a more perfect union'). Eventually, we get a few things right. And then again. And then again. But, then we get billionaires who want for nothing and need nothing. Except power. Their purchasing power is excited by nothing. Except when it comes to purchasing people. You know, judges, politicians, et al. To them, that shit is ultra exciting. Doing good for society, what a fucking joke. What a fucking laugh! Are you fucking kidding me!? They have the attitude of they'd rather be feared than liked and respected. Why, you ask? The answer is simple... Power. Their warped power fantasies. That's it. But, all they are really accomplishing is creating thousands and thousands of Luigi Mangione's. And then thousands more. This planet is finite and there is ultimately, no place for them to hide.

uponit7771

(92,801 posts)
30. GET ARRESTED NOW !! Stop some congress from doing some shit, stand in the way and make more noise. If that's all we
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:06 PM
Apr 25

... we got that's what we'll use.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
21. Don't worry. Schumer will probably draft a sternly worded letter...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:45 PM
Apr 25

and he might even send it!

ImNotGod

(670 posts)
35. IDK, maybe we should ask Garland, he can be found eating milk and cookies while watching reruns of Mr Rogers
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:24 PM
Apr 25

Neighborhood.

JBTaurus83

(297 posts)
10. Really?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:56 PM
Apr 25

"Said Rep. Greg Landsman (D-Ohio): "They arrested a judge?! They can no longer claim to be a party of law and order. This will have to be a red line for congressional Republicans. Unbelievable."

Earth to Greg, they have no red lines.

lindysalsagal

(22,685 posts)
11. If he can arrest state judges, he can arrest Congress members, too.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:06 PM
Apr 25

They better dump him while they still can. It's choice time: him, or congress.

Historic NY

(38,921 posts)
15. Was he in her court. Then he was under the control of the Judges court & jurisdiction.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:47 PM
Apr 25

He was in her court for pre-trial on the charges that they say were the reason for the arrest. Those were state charges that were in the trial process. Somebodys in trouble and it isn't the Judge.

Ice admits to be staking out the court.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/who-is-eduardo-flores-ruiz-mexican-immigrant-judge-hannah-dugan-is-accused-of-helping-101745605011312.html]

Mossfern

(3,742 posts)
17. THIS is the issue
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:19 PM
Apr 25

if it was in her court. I'd love to see the timeline and the actual actions taken. Did thy arrest her in court?

patphil

(7,742 posts)
16. Activist Judges sabotaging Trump's agenda?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:03 PM
Apr 25

The problem with Trump's agenda is that it doesn't follow the rule of law, so Judges uniformly around the country are opposed to it.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, district 3 in Wisconsin, won by less than 12K votes in 2024.
I hope his praise for this despicable action sinks him in 2026.

jalan48

(14,861 posts)
18. We had a coup attempt in January 2021. The coup folks are now in power and they are doing what they want.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:23 PM
Apr 25

Outrage means nothing to them, it' s just an empty gesture they delight in laughing at.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
22. If Biden hadn't appointed Merrick fucking Garland,
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 25

and had appointed someone who actually wanted to preserve democracy as AG, we wouldn't be in this mess.

jalan48

(14,861 posts)
25. Exactly. The fact that Garland never called it a coup attempt was telling.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:54 PM
Apr 25

The wife of a Supreme Court Justice was involved and we didn't get shit in the way of law enforcement. All we got now is outrage and victimhood and that's not going to stop the Nazis, but it makes us feel better I guess.

Hornedfrog2000

(155 posts)
20. And to think,
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:44 PM
Apr 25

We had the chance to put the real criminals in prison, and garland, et al. Shit their pants and decided playing nice with a felon was the wise move. Someone should arrest him if anyone.

Blue Owl

(56,101 posts)
26. Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:59 PM
Apr 25

Do us all a favor and end your misery, you goddamned fat fuck.

Jesus fucking Christ….

leftyladyfrommo

(19,710 posts)
54. I am beginning to think he is a wind up doll.
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 12:42 PM
Apr 26

He even looks like a doll's plastic mold face.

This is getting too wierd for me.

rich7862

(465 posts)
29. If the criminal arrest of a judge stands, we all better leave the country. Before we are forced to stay.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:05 PM
Apr 25

moonshinegnomie

(3,330 posts)
31. arrest patel
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:08 PM
Apr 25

2 can play at that game.
send wisconsin police to forcibly arrest him at his house and drag his ass back to wisconsin. after all laws dont have any meaning after all anyway.
....

dchill

(42,212 posts)
42. Try to keep this in mind, Derrick...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:56 PM
Apr 25

..."President Trump's agenda..." is unconstitutional and illegal, so...

Judges tend to not like that.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,428 posts)
43. Maddow Blog-As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:32 PM
Apr 25

The Republican offensive against the judiciary has been unsubtle, but the Trump administration hadn’t arrested a sitting judge — until now.
https://bsky.app/profile/elizabeth11432.bsky.social/post/3lno5vyphck2c

As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary.
The Republican offensive against the judiciary has been unsubtle, but the Trump administration hadn’t arrested a sitting judge — until now.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/fbi-arrests-judge-wisconsin-ag-pam-bondi-directs-new-threats-judiciary-rcna203061

The Republican offensive against the courts and judges in recent months has been as subtle as a sledgehammer. The Washington Post recently summarized, for example, that the White House has pushed forward with “delegitimizing” the independent judiciary, and there’s overwhelming evidence to bolster the point.....

But the Trump administration hadn’t gone so far as to actually arrest a sitting judge — until now. NBC News reported:

The FBI arrested a county judge in Milwaukee on Friday, alleging that she obstructed the detention of an undocumented immigrant who was wanted by federal authorities on an administrative immigration warrant by escorting the man and his defense attorney though a non-public jury door. The arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan marks a significant escalation of the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigration, in line with its rhetoric about going after local and state authorities on immigration-related matters.


.....Shortly after Dugan was taken into custody, Kash Patel, Trump’s highly controversial FBI director, published a tweet that effectively spiked the football. “We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest,” he wrote in a missive that was deleted a short time later. “Thankfully our agents chased down the perp on foot and he’s been in custody since, but the Judge’s obstruction created increased danger to the public.”

Democratic Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin didn’t quite see it that way.

“In the United States, we have a system of checks and balances and separations of power for damn good reasons,” the senator said in a statement. “The president’s administration arresting a sitting judge is a gravely serious and drastic move, and it threatens to breach those very separations of power. Make no mistake, we do not have kings in this country, and we are a democracy governed by laws that everyone must abide by. By relentlessly attacking the judicial system, flouting court orders, and arresting a sitting judge, this president is putting those basic Democratic values that Wisconsinites hold dear on the line."
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lnnprevixu2y


“[Judges] are deranged, is all I can think of,” Bondi said during her 18th appearance on Fox this year. “I think some of these judges think that they are beyond and above the law, and they are not. And we’re sending a very strong message today: If you are harboring a fugitive, we don’t care who you are. ... We will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you.”.....

Through her legal counsel, Dugan issued a statement Friday afternoon that read, “Judge Hannah C. Dugan has committed herself to the rule of law and the principles of due process for her entire career as a lawyer and a judge. She has retained former United States Attorney Steven Biskupic to represent her. Judge Dugan will defend herself vigorously and looks forward to being exonerated. This will be the extent of any statements or interviews at this time.”

turbinetree

(26,063 posts)
48. Every senator that voted and confirmed these two and others in his cabinet should look in the mirror...........
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:18 PM
Apr 25

they are responsible for this shit show.......and they are responsible that they did not impeach him not once not twice when given the opportunity......and the US Supreme Court giving him immunity.......................the Victor Orban dictator playbook is being played out in real time ...............

Alternatively, you may phone the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office you request.

vapor2

(2,214 posts)
51. Activist judges acting to sabotage 47's agenda
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:29 PM
Apr 25

How about 47 sabotaging our democracy??? Just sayin'

kkmarie

(138 posts)
53. Sure 77 million people voted for Krasnov
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 12:33 PM
Apr 26

But what about the 75 million that voted for Kamala and the 90 million who didn't vote. I'm not great at math but it looks like an overwhelming majority didn't vote for this shit.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,428 posts)
57. Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:35 PM
Monday

I am a corporate lawyer but I do know basic federal criminal procedure. Judge Dugan was arrested on a magistrate warrant and the case had NOT been presented to a grand jury. Before this case can go to trial, this case has to be presented to and voted on by a grand jury. The arrest on Friday was a stunt to "whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy." One can arrest a suspect without a grand jury indictment but normally there has to be good reason for such arrest
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnuuhqajbk2j

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."



https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-bondi-arresting-judges-hannah-dugan

It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but also how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. She was arrested Friday morning in the parking lot of the Milwaukee County Courthouse, complete with handcuffs. There’s no allegation she was a flight risk or was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work.

Additionally, Dugan was arrested pursuant to a criminal complaint signed by a federal magistrate judge. There’s nothing improper about that as such, but for felonies in federal court, prosecutors must convene a grand jury and present evidence. Only if the grand jury returns an indictment can someone be prosecuted.

Going before a grand jury isn’t a nicety or a minor procedural step. The Fifth Amendment requires it. Arresting Dugan before convening a grand jury was intended to get flashy headlines and whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy. Even if a grand jury declines to indict Dugan, the administration has succeeded in creating a climate of fear and suspicion.

Recall that although Trump faced 88 charges in four criminal cases for much worse things than what Dugan is accused of, he was always charged by indictment after presentation to a grand jury and allowed to turn himself in. Here he is in Georgia, where he faced 13 felony counts for trying to overturn the 202 election. Here he is in New York, where he faced — and was convicted of — 34 felonies related to falsifying business records to hide his hush payments to Stormy Daniels. New York state was so solicitous of Trump that he didn’t even have to have his mug shot taken. When he voluntarily surrendered in Miami for the classified documents case, he wasn’t handcuffed.,,,,,

It will be interesting to see a grand jury would indict this judge on the actual facts

One hurdle prosecutors might have in securing an indictment against Dugan was that ICE had an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant, for Flores-Ruiz. The criminal complaint obscures this, referring only to a “warrant” or an “arrest warrant” in most places. The only time an administrative warrant is mentioned is when the complaint quotes Dugan saying it.

As much as the administration would like it to be otherwise, those administrative warrants aren’t the same as judicial warrants. Judicial warrants are signed by a federal or state judge or magistrate and must be complied with as long as they are valid. Administrative warrants — also known as immigration warrants — are issued by administrative agencies such as ICE and signed by an immigration judge. Despite also being called judges, immigration judges are not part of the judicial branch. They are appointed by the attorney general and are part of the executive branch.

I wonder if this case will ever be presented to a grand jury,
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