You do know that a lot of people are unhappy with what a lot of current Dems are doing. Or not doing.

nominees, not so much.

Personally, I think it’s time for new Democratic candidates in many areas of country. In other areas, maybe the Democrat ain’t what we want, but they’re the only one that can get elected.

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does not do that...we just leave Speaker Johnson in place to do trump's bidding.

Let's use our heads, not unseat other Democrats. That should not have to be explained on a Democratic board. We clip TSF's wings if he doesn't have control of the House behind him.

Folks in your Seventies, retire. Enjoy your life. Spoil the Grandkids. Getting old ain’t political. Let the kids cross swords with the bad guys.

Youth is not the answer to all of our problems. Intelligence and clarity will help save our country.

In certain House Districts, not necessarily all, new blood (at any age) can bring us the leadership that the Democratic Party needs and deserves at this critical moment!!

When you have politicians busting out their readers to sonorously give speeches to people who are half listening, all of the energy leaves the room.

A people led by the lethargic will feel lethargic and they will disengage.

People do not feel spoken to. They feel like they’re in a church - something to be suffered through. “Oh, you’re doing nothing but brought a speech? Aweeeesome. Welp, let’s get this fecklessness over with. I have a brunch to get to.”

People are tired because their politicians are tired.

If we must be in church, give me some of that Jonathan Edward’s shit. I want spiders dangling over the fiery pit, god damnit.

just so long as they're not hide-bound.

Too many of the older congress critters are old AND stodgy. Old folks who are willing to adapt are the best of both worlds.

AOC is all about intelligence and clarity. As is Jasmine Crockett. As Is Corey Booker. We are on the correct side of the aisle. Old or Young, I will always vote for the Dem Candidate.

And James Clyburn.

I would vote for them. My congressman is a shallow 57 year old Republican. I’d trade him for a Dem of any age. I’d rather not tell a candidate of ours, no don’t run for office your too young.

Anyone is telling them to not run for office because they are too young.

In a country on the verge of registries for people who have disabilities (Autism is just the beginning) - I don't think we should have a DNC Vice Chair saying people are too old.

He may not be saying it directly, but it is certainly implied.

Once we regain control of the House, then we sort out older Dems aging out.

Let's use our heads AND GAIN THE MAJORITY.

I mean, showing unity with our party. So many young people don’t seem to know how the game works. Winning a primary is not a victory. It has to be winning an election, begging old people to retire is not gonna work.

With the coming destruction by theft of Social Security.

It doesn't give me any warm fuzzies that they'll restore mine to the target payment statement I received in December.

I can only hope folks like Buttigieg and Booker can sit down with Hogg and explain a few things.

Because of gerrymandering, most seats are not realistically contestable in the general election.

Setting one generation against another is reactionary and counterproductive.

And just how well did that work out?

Only this seems to be about age, not ideals. And that will not work out any better

God that was an ugly, ugly time at DU.

While we were all too busy infighting Putin was getting busy with other forms of election interference

And if they fail we'll hear a bunch of bullshit about rigged elections.

Not that the voters didn't think they aligned with their vision - but rigged nonsense.

who are TERRIFIED and will stop at nothing to thwart progress because all they care about is money, lobsters, and Champagne. A day without a conspiracy theory about Democrats is like a day without sunshine.

"...the Jews did it! Er, I mean AIPAC!!"

Y'know that is already in the works!

how much of this Democratic in fighting is being stoked by MAGAt Republicans, behind the scenes or blatantly in plain view.

Declared without living in the District. Chris Smith in NJ has done that for years as a Republican. She may live in the District now, but that's warning number 1. She's planning to move there.

Warning number 2 - Jeff Van Drew. He flipped GOP as soon as he got elected. Unlike her - he did not come from a family of Republicans. Like - highly active in the inner halls of the Republican Party.

corporate, corrupt by campaign contributions, elites, etc., same character attacks -- when it's not about policy, they go after character and now age. Voters get more and more cynical and don't vote in the general election. Republicans win these very close elections and Democrats are blamed with the same old bullshit about ignoring the working class and messaging and not fighting.

And again, we who are Democrats supporting Democrats on a forum for people supporting Democrats are mocked as trolls down at the bingo hall.

No word of primarying him, although he’s one of the oldest still taking up space that supposedly should be for someone younger. So the age thingy is just a ruse.

Progressive heart attack OK.

The double standards keep on rolling.

I was looking for more information about the judge that was arrested, and came across this. I know nothing of Florida politics, and perhaps this is nothing more than kabuki theater. But it doesn’t sound good. https://apnews.com/article/florida-democrat-leaves-party-jason-pizzo-gop-2a09a5ebaba64ce10cf2c7b519f931e3

Fuck that shit.

It’s what the corporate media wants you to believe. K

He is 80 years old with cancer. I did not think he should’ve run in 2024.

It is an incredibly safe blue seat. C’mon, guy. You did a great job, but there is a time to gracefully transition to the next generations and allow others to grow their networks, gain experience, and represent people who are closer to being their peers.

We used to be the party for the young and those looking towards the future. How we became a cable news commercial for Colonial Penn is absolutely absurd.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/bay-area-congressman-john-garamendi-diagnosed-blood-cancer

Congressman John Garamendi on Monday announced that he is receiving treatment for a type of blood cancer. "Like 1.9 million Americans each year, I recently received the dreaded call from my doctor informing me that I had cancer," Garamendi wrote on social media. "I am thankful to have caught this early, and we are confident that I will soon be in remission."

Garamendi, D-Fairfield, is in his eighth term in the U.S. House of Representatives. He said he has early-stage multiple myeloma, a type of blood cancer and is undergoing chemotherapy and immunotherapy at Kaiser Oncology in Sacramento. Garamendi's 8th district includes all or parts of Richmond, Hercules, Rodeo, Martinez, Vallejo, Bay Point, Pittsburg, Antioch and Fairfield.

"I have a long, long list of projects and goals for my district in the East Bay counties of Contra Costa and Solano," Garamendi said, in a video posted on X. "So I will continue to work as I take the treatments. However, I've been cautioned by my doctors to reduce unnecessary exposure to avoid COVID-19, the flu and other viruses. In addition to destroying cancer cells, chemotherapy impairs natural antibodies and undermines the body's immune system."

Garamendi's political career started in 1974, when he was elected to the first of four terms in the California State Legislature. From 1991 to 1995, and again from 2003 to 2006, Garamendi served as the California insurance commissioner. He also served as deputy secretary of the interior under President Clinton and was elected California's lieutenant governor in 2007. He was first elected to Congress in 2009.

I really don't have anything negative to say about him aside from, "You've been in politics longer than I've been alive, and the party desperately needs turnover and to make space for people who will take it forward."

And it isn't like we're asking people to wander off into the woods and die. People can still hang around, work on projects, and serve their communities if that is their true passion. But it's like we're on season 24 of the Walking Dead, the audience is listless, and we need some new faces to drum up enthusiasm. 23% approval? Yeah, no one's watching our show. We're literally banking on the Trump disaster being the electoral equivalent of "There's nothing else on tv, so what else are you going to watch?" for us. Schumer's more or less said that's the plan.

I don't know if people know they can't take power with them.

Rahm Emanuel was the DCCC Chair and had overseen the Democrats gaining the House Majority after 12 years in the minority. Most political observers assumed that he could claim the House Majority Whip position as his prize for what he had done at the DCCC. Instead, he was told to stand aside and let James Clyburn have it - and Clyburn was almost the same exact age as Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Hoyer. I had an uncomfortable feeling then that the senior Democrats had zero interest in the future leadership of the party.

IF THESE FOLK REFUSE TO PASS THE BATON JUST FUCKING OVERTAKE THEM ALREADY

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, WE NEED CHANGE AND IT NEEDS TO START NOW

Sort out the age thing AFTER WE REGAIN THE HOUSE MAJORITY.

It's not that hard to understand. Once we have the majority, we help to clip trump's wings, help save the democracy and the economy. Sort out the rest after regaining control.

our current state.

Just one example of that current state:

Democrats are grappling with a young electorate that's disaffected with both parties.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220267028

it's getting better.

So what doesn't work that way?

Gaining the majority to stop trump if we can?

I think we can by 2026 the way trump is fucking up, and he's barely 100 days in yet on his second term.

the status quo. I am also most definitely not in the Carville camp.

even lower so trying to wrest the majority from the republicans is well worth it.

Subbing one Dem who Hogg prefers for a sitting Dem doesn't get us there.

I respect your opinion, I just do not share it.

case basis.

I do not think any in vulnerable districts should be primaried (and Hogg said he will not support that).

he's supposed to be neutral in campaign races, not favoring anyone with his PAC money. And btw, he sure understand how to award himself a heft, six-figure salary from his PAC.

He's got a lot to learn.

His average is 46% and none show him at 37%. Wishful thinking.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

approval ratings on the economy is 37%.

God, one would think from some of the responses here, some are rooting for TSF.

Not sure why you're getting mad at me for. How was I supposed to know that you meant his approval on the economy when you didn't specify?

I don't get making excuses for the fascist asshole.

But overall it's still in the mid 40's on average. I'll assume that his handing of immigration is below 50 and dropping. I hope.

in the tank and falling fast with the tarriff foolishness, the Hegseth debacle, Monk, Bondi having that judge arrested, snatching people off the street with no due process (even republicans like Joe Rogan), repugs not holding townhalls, trump's nonsense ramblings in interviews, trump defying the Supreme Court, street protests, just the sheer chaos of his proto-fascist admin... his ratings are just sinking so bad that no president in history has done well in the mid-terms with such poor results this early in his term, not even 100 days n=yet.

CNN also reported that Democrats finally have issues to run on and have a favoribility rating up four points.

You might want to go to CNN. I don't usually watch CNN but MSNBC was covering the Pope's funeral.

What you're saying is no longer true.

CBS released one today that has him at 45%. His averages will probably continue to drop for a while.

for the latest Dem divide.

When the Republican Maga party has the trifecta this is stupid.

The Republican Maga party has made working class into a Cultural identity. I don't think young Americans in general get/understand that they started ramping up in 1994 with their Contract on America which demonized Black American women. To be clear - many of us were working class.I was at University - and accused of getting a free ride on a daily basis. Uh no - had a perfect score on the ACT and 1580 on the SAT and didn't qualify for any financial aid until unsubsidized loans became a 'thing' second semester of my Sophomore year - but I digress . . .

The point is they speak about high rent and oligarchs - but they haven't found a way to turn it into a culture war.

Until then - Republicans are evil and have to be stomped into submission. I know that doesn't align with the "we are not your enemy" at some rallies -

But hey! We are a big tent right? I just don't want them getting in my way of 'My Cruelty To The Other' is the point. I flipped the bird at America 31 years ago, beat it at its own game, and my finger is still up.

They aren't going to keep the SALT Cap and keep giving my money to racist white Magat Republicans in red counties and states. When I hear Oligarch - that's where my mind goes. And since 2015 - I've still not seen the message bring racist white Working Class Republicans to our side.

The message would hit me better if they were at rallies saying "Hey we know behind closed doors you drop n-bombs - but here's why you have to see Black folks, Latinos, Asians as fellow Americans".

They aren't stating clearly what those people are.

Fuck Bernie
Fuck Nancy Pelosi
Fuck Maxine Watters
Fuck Jim Clyburn
Fuck Rosa DeLauro
Fuck Marcy Kapture
Fuck Bennie Thompson
Fuck Ed Markey

What have they ever done for us…..


Wait what…..

Sarcasm thing added.


What are we thinking. These are people who have actually made America great and now some little kid (granted who was involved in a tragic shooting) throws a hissy fit and we should throw these proven leaders out for untested kids because they are younger. Fuck that, beware of the old warrior, there is a reason they got that way.

don't understand they're being deceived, believe the disinformation and lies about the history of the party and its platform and policies.

Why would their populist heroes lie to them? What is their goal? Why are they running against Democrats when their accusations about corruption and not being progressive and ignoring the working class are obviously false? Why the lust to turn Democrats into evil enemies they must destroy?

we have a favorable chance of re-taking the house and senate in the mid-terms.
I understand why some want to do this, but if it's serious, they are jeopardizing our opportunity to right the ship. Right now, unity is the only way. Demanding purity will be the thing that defeats us

If the GOP gets supermajorities in both houses, we are doomed.

I can't believe they're trying this lame idea again, and I hope Democrats will re-elect those loyal Democrats who have long service in Congress.

Am I hopeful? Cautiously.

Seems like an apt question.

and then lose most of those primaries, get mad, and refuse to vote for democrats in general elections.

Seen this movie before.

A few will take back the "rigging" nonsense if they plan on running for public office again, but the message is clear: Democrats are corrupt. May as well not vote, both sides are the same anyway.

Great messaging there! That will really get out the vote for progress to help the American people as Democrats always do. Oh wait, it only makes people disgusted and cynical. Nice job! We know who doesn't give a shit about progress and is shitty at messaging.

Long overdue!

The one in place is working great, play dead and keep playing dead until we win back the House, Senate, and the White House..

At this rate, that could be a very long time, but why change??? During his eight years in office, Obama oversaw a net loss of 947 state legislative seats, 63 House seats, 11 senators, and 13 governors.

Let's keep that up!

Age is one part of it, but understanding of the moment and the future is more important.

is needed to attract younger people to the Democratic party.

They hate the Democratic Party. Why would anybody here clap for them?