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edhopper

(36,674 posts)
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 10:38 AM Feb 2024

"I sailed on Royal Caribbean's wildly hyped Icon of the Seas ":

Last edited Fri Feb 2, 2024, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.businessinsider.com/royal-caribbean-icon-of-the-seas-cruise-ship-photo-tour-2024-1

I am posting this article because some here are genuinely curious about what this monster ship is like.

And it gives those who hate everything about the cruise industry, even though they have never been on a cruise and never will be, to rant about it.

https://i.insider.com/65b3d2b3f4b446f3be9d3ef5?width=800&format=jpeg&auto=webp

I have been on 10 or so cruises. And for me where the cruise goes is more important than having a theme park at sea. I like smaller ships going to interesting ports. I just returned from a cruise in South Africa. My favorite cruises were Antarctica (the trip of a lifetime) Norway and the Baltic.
I have no desire for a Caribbean cruise. The drinking can get out of control and you don't have the time to really enjoy what the islands have to offer. But I know people who find a Carribean cruise a perfect vacation.

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"I sailed on Royal Caribbean's wildly hyped Icon of the Seas ": (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2024 OP
After reading the article, I feel a panic attack coming on. madaboutharry Feb 2024 #1
Neither would I. TSExile Feb 2024 #2
I've been on 25 cruises. April is the next. jimfields33 Feb 2024 #5
I would take the cabin in the woods!! TSExile Feb 2024 #6
So true. jimfields33 Feb 2024 #7
Me too! llmart Feb 2024 #21
A cabin in the woods.... madaboutharry Feb 2024 #11
lol Torchlight Feb 2024 #15
After watching the movie, k55f5r Feb 2024 #16
That's true. Lol jimfields33 Feb 2024 #17
I loved pour Alaska cfuise edhopper Feb 2024 #20
We kayaked the inside passage. AllyCat Feb 2024 #29
Read up on Atlas voyages. Not all cruise ship companies are like that. Not "The Love Boat." CTyankee Feb 2024 #30
It would be my idea of Hell. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #31
For someone who enjoys having peace during their vacations, this is a bloody nightmare. Chakaconcarne Feb 2024 #3
See my post #30. You need more information. They are not all gross. CTyankee Feb 2024 #34
Why not just go to disneyland or something like that ? JI7 Feb 2024 #4
Thanks for posting BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #8
As FLVegan would say: I predict greatness for this thread! Coventina Feb 2024 #26
It's well on its way! BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #32
I get why people say they can't do this or that thing to help the environment redqueen Feb 2024 #9
I don't think giant waves edhopper Feb 2024 #19
An overcrowded floating hotel where you could have to deal with everything from highplainsdem Feb 2024 #10
Or trapped on a ship Beachnutt Feb 2024 #28
Been on the large cruisers. Don't enjoy them. marble falls Feb 2024 #12
I like cruises Mz Pip Feb 2024 #13
Yep. People make generalizations. There are cruises and cruises. That's why I call the one I like "voyages." CTyankee Feb 2024 #38
I'm not crazy about cruising spinbaby Feb 2024 #14
My issue is every place that cruise ships go has been ruined by cruise EX500rider Feb 2024 #18
I've Been Coming To This RobinA Feb 2024 #23
Exhibit A: Venice. Coventina Feb 2024 #27
You Bet! ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #37
They buy the land and develop cruiseline "villiages" turning local artisans into retail clerks ... marble falls Feb 2024 #46
You don't have to have taken a cruise kcr Feb 2024 #22
Sounds awful. Imagine being stuck on a ship with a bunch of other people's children. Goodheart Feb 2024 #24
And other people's diseases, Norovirus in particular. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #35
Guess everyone has different ideas of vacation. AllyCat Feb 2024 #25
On our 21 day voyage from Seattle to Sydney on Royal Caribbean in 2018... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2024 #33
My idea of vacation is a fly in fishing trip to Emile Feb 2024 #36
I've been on 2. bamagal62 Feb 2024 #39
Bingo Goodheart Feb 2024 #42
People automatically think all cruises are like edhopper Feb 2024 #43
puff piece by a writer who got a free cruise to write the article. dont expect a real review or criticism ZonkerHarris Feb 2024 #40
I wonder how gas d_r Feb 2024 #41
Nuts and bolts GenThePerservering Feb 2024 #44
Meh JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #45
Easy and quick summary jmowreader Feb 2024 #47
There are 2 types of cruisers Footay Feb 2024 #48

madaboutharry

(42,010 posts)
1. After reading the article, I feel a panic attack coming on.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:09 AM
Feb 2024

It seems absolutely horrible. Paying all that money to be trapped on what is actually an enormous floating Potemkin Village. None of what is described in the article seems peaceful, fun, or relaxing. I wouldn’t go for free.

And I have been on a cruise, to Alaska. The only parts that made me happy were the times I wasn’t on the ship. I had a great time kayaking. Other than that, I really hated most of it.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
2. Neither would I.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:11 AM
Feb 2024

My grandparents, God rest them, took several cruises. You couldn't get me onto one of those things. A riverboat is my limit.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
5. I've been on 25 cruises. April is the next.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:25 AM
Feb 2024

I love them. They are the best vacation because it has everything for everyone. Of course, I would say the worst vacation would be a cabin in the woods. Couldn’t pay me s million for that boredom. So everyone is different.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
7. So true.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:31 AM
Feb 2024

Thank God every one is different. If we all were the same, it’d take years to get a vacation time. 😂

llmart

(16,908 posts)
21. Me too!
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 01:03 PM
Feb 2024

I have never had any desire to take any cruise. None. But then I'm somewhat of an introvert and especially nowadays when there are too many loonies out there. I don't like crowds of people. I've often said that I would have been a good female Henry David Thoreau.

edhopper

(36,674 posts)
20. I loved pour Alaska cfuise
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
Feb 2024

on and off the ship. Did you cruise through the Inside Passage?

AllyCat

(18,242 posts)
29. We kayaked the inside passage.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:36 PM
Feb 2024

Every day, huge cruise ships coming way too close to the whales. Most of the whales would just leave when they were there. One ship got really close to one of the islands we were camping on and started saying things on the bullhorns to us. Really obnoxious. I’m sure they thought it was uproariously funny.

We mooned them.

A low point in an otherwise glorious vacation.

CTyankee

(67,131 posts)
30. Read up on Atlas voyages. Not all cruise ship companies are like that. Not "The Love Boat."
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:46 PM
Feb 2024

I like going for voyages that include a nice art/architecture component, and a good, varied cuisine.

We are old and part of what I love about this type of trip is not having to worry about planning, shopping, preparing and serving meals. We like fresh, wholesome foods and a big variety. I like having room service on the ship for breakfast -- coffee and a croissant served in your room! Our own "cabin boy" is a wonderful thing.

They even do your laundry! You have no idea how nice that is -- not having to pack so many clothes. And they even fold it for you!

My aching, arthritic back gets a good rest. It is handicap accessible for my husband who uses a walker.

We have used a travel agent for the last and this new voyage coming up. She knows exactly what we want (I spell out the art I want to see and she arranges it!). And we don't pay her anything.



Ocelot II

(127,512 posts)
31. It would be my idea of Hell.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:50 PM
Feb 2024

If I were convicted of a heinous felony and I had a choice of being sentenced to prison or to a long cruise on that thing, I'd have to think really hard...

Chakaconcarne

(2,768 posts)
3. For someone who enjoys having peace during their vacations, this is a bloody nightmare.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:15 AM
Feb 2024

and completely gross...

I don't even need to be on one of these ships to know what it's like.

CTyankee

(67,131 posts)
34. See my post #30. You need more information. They are not all gross.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:57 PM
Feb 2024

That being said, I realize that group travel is not for every one. We used to have a wonderful secluded house in the woods in Door County Wisconsin, an idyllic and beautiful spot. But travel to it from CT was a nightmare. I used to say I could get to Paris faster than I could get to Wisconsin, given flight connections, waits in airports, drives from airport to secluded part of Door County. We got too old to keep that up and sold the property and made a big profit (hubby inherited the property).

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
9. I get why people say they can't do this or that thing to help the environment
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:37 AM
Feb 2024

Because it's not affordable for them, or due to health reasons, etc.

This shit though...

highplainsdem

(58,424 posts)
10. An overcrowded floating hotel where you could have to deal with everything from
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:38 AM
Feb 2024

giant waves to viral outbreaks (think of thousands of people with Covid or norovirus).

No, thanks.

Mz Pip

(28,235 posts)
13. I like cruises
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:49 AM
Feb 2024

But not like this. We go on smaller ship Viking cruises. 900 guests max. No kids, no casinos, no masses of people scrambling for deck chairs. There are bookshelves and quiet nooks all over.

Something like this would give me a panic attack.

CTyankee

(67,131 posts)
38. Yep. People make generalizations. There are cruises and cruises. That's why I call the one I like "voyages."
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:02 PM
Feb 2024

People who generalize probably don't do any further exploration of the different kinds of voyages you can take. As I like to say, not everything is "The Love Boat."

spinbaby

(15,329 posts)
14. I'm not crazy about cruising
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 11:57 AM
Feb 2024

I’ve been on half a dozen or so cruises over the years and although it’s not my idea of a great vacation, I’ve enjoyed most of them, mainly because I was cruising with people I enjoyed hanging out with. This ship looks like a nightmare.

EX500rider

(11,993 posts)
18. My issue is every place that cruise ships go has been ruined by cruise
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 12:36 PM
Feb 2024

...ships.
They turn into tourist traps where the people are sick of tourists.

I like getting off the beaten path one of my favorite vacations was 2 weeks in Costa Rica with a rented 4x4 and No Reservations anywhere drove down to the South part where the tourists aren't

RobinA

(10,443 posts)
23. I've Been Coming To This
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 01:42 PM
Feb 2024

conclusion ever since I started travelling in Europe. In Norway we were in Geiranger, which is a lovely town at the tip of a fjord. Apparently it's a cruise stop, and a good part of the time we were there a cruise ship was in the water. The cruise people got off the ship and went to this giant souvenir shop that was right there, the kids whined a lot, they ate ice cream cones, ambled around a bit and then it was back to the ship. We had the same experience in Key West. I had thought about maybe trying a cruise, but after running into various cruise ships while on vacations it started to look like something I would not really like. It's like the shore visits are for shopping and then it's away to the next shopping stop. I'm thinking I might forego that travel experience.

Coventina

(28,760 posts)
27. Exhibit A: Venice.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:34 PM
Feb 2024

Venice is a lovely, peaceful, magical, laid-back little town......until the cruise ships dock and then it's a living hell.

ProfessorGAC

(74,646 posts)
37. You Bet!
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:02 PM
Feb 2024

Key West is another fine example. It's the lazy tropics 4 days a week & Disneyland the other 3.

marble falls

(68,781 posts)
46. They buy the land and develop cruiseline "villiages" turning local artisans into retail clerks ...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 07:37 PM
Feb 2024

... Belize and Roatan were a lot more fun when the ships unloaded passengers on a dock that became the main street through town. Got to see actual artists and master craftsters doing real work. I liked the Bahamas in the 70s and smaller liners And the market would be right next to where the ships landed.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
22. You don't have to have taken a cruise
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 01:28 PM
Feb 2024

to hate the cruising industry. They ruined my favorite vacation spot. Plus, they're horrible for the environment.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
24. Sounds awful. Imagine being stuck on a ship with a bunch of other people's children.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:28 PM
Feb 2024

Ugh.

Ocelot II

(127,512 posts)
35. And other people's diseases, Norovirus in particular.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:58 PM
Feb 2024

Being stuck on a ship with 10,000 people with diarrhea is not my idea of a vacation.

AllyCat

(18,242 posts)
25. Guess everyone has different ideas of vacation.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:29 PM
Feb 2024

I would need a vacation after returning from this thing.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,268 posts)
33. On our 21 day voyage from Seattle to Sydney on Royal Caribbean in 2018...
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 02:56 PM
Feb 2024

It was a relaxing experience on the Explorer of The Seas.

A 15 deck ship, just the right size for just about everything. One could go play games, mini-golf, surf, swim, walk about, relax, see movies at night, go to the scheduled entertainment, go to the Fitness Center that was opened from 6 am to 10 pm, get one's hair or nails done at the 12th deck Salon, have dinner either at several restaurants
or at the main dining room, watch movies in the evenings out on the pool deck, and more. The 5th Deck resembled a mini shopping mall with a 24 hour cafe and a British Pub. Of the 2,000 plus passengers, about 1/3 were Australians sailing back to Australia with stops in the Hawaiian Islands of Oahu and Maui, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia. There were some Kids, but not many. The food was great, the entertainment enjoyable, the cabins quite comfortable and very clean despite tiny bathrooms. We had an interior cabin with a virtual window. One did not need a fancier room unless there were more than double occupancy. I was seldom in the cabin.

All in all, it was a wonderful experience I would do again with a friend. Hubby is not interested in cruising. He saw the cruise as a means to get to a place. I LOVED it.

bamagal62

(4,180 posts)
39. I've been on 2.
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:30 PM
Feb 2024

One was a royal Caribbean, the other Carnival. Both to the carribean and both were birthday celebrations (so I did not choose the destination or the ship). I hated both of them.
The food grossed me out and you never had enough time at the destinations. They wanted you on that ship! And, too many drunk people. I’ll never do another one. I find it better just to fly to a chosen destination and stay there longer.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
42. Bingo
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 04:17 PM
Feb 2024

I've been on two. One was a family obligation, the other was a matter of convenience because the ship was right across the street in New Orleans.

Really hated them both.

Couldn't do much at the destinations because the stays were so short. Cancun, Belize City weren't so bad... the locals pretty much left us alone. But Cozumel... OMIGOD... I hate that place with a passion. Never a moment's peace from street hawkers.

And then while on the ship... WTF.

edhopper

(36,674 posts)
43. People automatically think all cruises are like
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 04:26 PM
Feb 2024

the partying Carribean cruises.
Far from it. Places like the Norwegian Fjords or the Croatian Coast are as different from those as cam be.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
40. puff piece by a writer who got a free cruise to write the article. dont expect a real review or criticism
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:37 PM
Feb 2024

GenThePerservering

(3,087 posts)
44. Nuts and bolts
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 05:46 PM
Feb 2024

The glitzy stuff is fairly interesting just to see what's there, but I'm more interested in how waste is managed, disposal procedures, recycling etc



I've never looked into it concerning ships this big, and for others who are interested, this is a nice overview:

https://www.cruisehive.com/what-do-cruise-ships-do-with-sewage/106631

I'd also like a look at the bridge, instrumentation and a few shots of the engines.

ETA: Found a better photo.

JustAnotherGen

(37,140 posts)
45. Meh
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 06:40 PM
Feb 2024

Taking a river cruise on the Nile late 2025/early 2026.

Other cruise will be from Hoboken to Bermuda. That's all the cruising I need to so.

jmowreader

(52,684 posts)
47. Easy and quick summary
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 01:22 AM
Feb 2024

"If you do not have young children, this probably isn't the vacation for you."

Footay

(78 posts)
48. There are 2 types of cruisers
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 08:07 AM
Feb 2024

As a travel advisor, I generally divide my cruise clients into 2 camps - those who see the ship as the destination, and those who see the ship as a means of transportation to places they want to see.

I book people on both all the time - some prefer the super small river cruises or small ocean ships that can port where big ships can't and some prefer the floating cities like Icon. I'm just glad there's options for everyone.

As for myself, I like the mid-size ocean ships that tend to draw more of an adult crowd - like Celebrity and Virgin. I was not a fan of my last Royal cruise on one of the behemoth ships. There were more people on that ship than in the town I grew up in.

i have 4 cruises planned in 2024. Even though cruising isn't my favorite type of vacation, it's important for me to go to have first-hand knowledge for my clients, which is why the next one up for me in the Disney Wish in March. Help me!

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