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ivilee 🇺🇲🇧🇦🇺🇦 @zivinileeOne of the main reasons Texas joined the US was because it couldn't protect itself from Mexico. It needed help and protection by the US. Paxton is an example of what happens when you play a Texan on tv, but aren't from Texas or don't know its history.
Paxton: Theres no way that Texas wouldve joined the Union if that meant we couldnt protect ourselves
Link to tweet
see: Mexican-American War

gopiscrap
(24,486 posts)to Mexico
Wonder Why
(6,262 posts)Jarqui
(10,770 posts)Imagine what the electoral college looks like without Texas
Sneederbunk
(16,888 posts)Mexico did not allow slavery.
Wounded Bear
(63,189 posts)in some sense. Even innocuous shit that happened will have peripheral connections to the slavery issue if you dig.
WarGamer
(18,017 posts)"couldn't protect itself from Mexico"
FFS Texan won their War of Independence from Mexico.
Ask Santa Anna how the Battle of San Jacinto went after the Alamo...
A decade before joining the USA.
At most... security with Mexico was "a" concern... but in reality, it was DEBT and they were courted by Southern US States...
And a great number of Texan leaders were from the US.
bigtree
(92,991 posts)...weren't just from Texas.
Or that it was the United States that declared war on Mexico, and it was the United States that won the war and got Mexico to relinquish claims on Texas.
List of United States military and volunteer units in the MexicanAmerican War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_and_volunteer_units_in_the_Mexican%E2%80%93American_War
WarGamer
(18,017 posts)The Texians won their war with Mexico in 1836... the greater war was 1846.
bigtree
(92,991 posts)...since the war followed the 1845 American annexation of Texas, and the end result of the U.S. fighting that war was Mexico recognizing Texas as part of the Union, it's obvious that it took the U.S. to guarantee that separation from Mexico through its military power and the negotiations that resulted; something Texas had not been able to achieve on its own.
There was fear that the Britain would join with Mexico to seize Texas after annexation because the move, which was rejected several times by successive presidents, including Texas legislators, was finally accepted to make a big slave state to advantage the slave holding south.
Texians waged a 'revolution' that lasted less than a year and saw humiliating defeats at Alamo and Goliad. They held Santa Anna and forced him to sign treaties that no one in Mexico recognized.
Texas and Mexico officially remained at war for most of the nine years that Texas existed as an independent republic. Although it never erupted into full scale fighting, there were constant skirmishes which resulted in Sam Houston agreeing to an armistice with Mexico in June 1843.
WarGamer
(18,017 posts)All I claimed... was that Texas had already won the War for Independence... in 1836
IMHO, the primary reason for joining the US was financial, at the urging of the Southern States.
And sure... security reasons, too... Mexico got really pissed after the annexation.
eppur_se_muova
(40,300 posts)And the TX leaders who were involved were all Americans emigrants who didn't want to pay taxes to Mexico after their tax holiday lapsed. Both sides were eager to cut a deal.
It was all self-serving on both sides.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)What a re-writing of history. Please read up on the Mexican war.
bigtree
(92,991 posts)...I love the absense of anything to back up the ridicule.
Texas was still fighting Mexico when the U.S. stepped in with regular and volunteer forces. In September 1842, the Mexico sent a force of 1,600 soldiers and briefly occupied San Antonio.
It's just ridiculous to assume they could have achieved independence from Mexico without a U.S. president (with their own self-serving motives) backing annexation with military force.
LauraInLA
(2,248 posts)bigtree
(92,991 posts)...besides, Mexico didn't recognize Santa Anna's treaty he signed under duress at all.
For that matter, annexation didn't come until years later, when Texas' slave owners attracted southern slave owners looking for a large territory ally.
In that interim, there were several major skirmishes with Mexico and Texas troops both winning battles, killing a lot of them and Texas really at the end of its rope when Sam Houston agreed to an armistice with Mexico in June 1843.
He did so because it was economically detrimental to maintain the state of war with Mexico that STILL existed. But it was contingent on Texas remaining independent from the slave owning U.S..
The war started with a border dispute in what's now southern Texas, likely provoked by Polk and his expansionist aims.
To me, independence for Texas didn't come from an armistice arrranged by Sam Houston and Britain. In my view, it was the U.S. military that achieved that goal with permanacy through war, not Texas.
Raine
(30,973 posts)UTUSN
(76,031 posts)Let's see: They (mostly Southern U.S.) weaseled their way, swore to convert to a foreign religion & non-slavery, eventually reneged on what they agreed-to, asserted their superior race, ended with brute force.
*** Oh, here's a thought: Now Texas, which reneged on what it agreed-to before (with Mexico), is now rebelling to what it agreed-to (with U.S.) - ya, OK.
Common thread. Doesn't change its stripes. Scorpion, its nature.